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Reply #15
« on: February 23, 2011, 10:37:56 AM »
T-Rex
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Feb. 22, Day 5.

I THINK IV’E GOT IT!!!!  All I have to do is find items that I can regularly buy low and sell high.  That seems simple.  Why have I been making it so hard?  And, I think I see some items that qualify….Yay!

Oh, I’m way too tired to do anything more today.  Real life strikes (and a bit of raiding on my main)!  It’s a good thing my goal wasn’t to win!

Start: >805g (forgot to look before started buying stuff, again!)
End: 950g

GOALS:
1)evaluate pipelines (UMJ, testing)
2)keep gold flowing (herbs) (limited supply? – time consuming)

Scans: 01:10, 10:20  (next day: argh, missed a scan)

DONE:
-mailbox: 949g in hand….surely I can stick to AH now? (except moths, cats, maybe hawks, rabbits)
-p recipe: roasted moongraze tenderloin 499g75
-need to start recording each item’s data in one place, since I’m working up pipelines; I have more complex spreadsheets, but let’s go for simple: buy price, #sold, sell price, #posted – forget times/dates, because it’s too confusing for me to try to line these things up.  Vektor’s spreadsheet, in the pre-pipeline/purchogram days was excellent, but too complex for me at this stage in my MGB career.
-record buy/sell data from beancounter….yes, it may have missed a few, but I’ll know to record right away in the future


PIPELINE EVALUATION
-none, sigh – got a few likely looking items into my new spreadsheet.
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Reply #16
« on: February 24, 2011, 03:22:00 AM »
T-Rex
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Feb. 23, Day 6.

Start: 1087g (after mailbox)
End:  864 (should have more in AH, need pipeline!)

Scans: 08:30, 15:30, 19:00, 01:00

GOALS:
1)evaluate pipelines that I am already looking at, by continuing to test
2)keep gold flowing (herbs?) (limited supply? – time consuming to pick them up) … looked at all current items, recorded info for possible pipelines; bought and posted more where I could
3) *NEW:  choose one higher level (5-25g per item) pipeline to evaluate.  Gulp.  Can I do this successfully? Go for it!
Use list from “Justmytwocopper”, which sounds a lot like items I hear MGBers talking about.  (Check what’s working for others in GSRV; Jon’s pipeline of the day; look at categories using Auctionator Buy. Now I’m getting too many things to look at, so try 1 method first).  Assess using UJ.
 (TOMORROW)

SURPRISE:  It seems easy to evaluate potential pipelines by testing!  I think the tracking I’m doing will work.  The spreadsheet I set up is intuitively the way to track, but words seem better for me.  WOW!  But it is very slow.

*WHAT’S WORKING: Beancounter!  I am relying heavily on it to track pipeline testing (this was a barrier for me previously, because it worked erratically – and tracking all of this was too much for me)

WHAT’S BROKEN:
-Auctionator Buy lists…often nothing shows up in my buy lists, so I can’t make the search.  Noticed on my main…maybe since last patch, or maybe last week? /disgusted look.
Download latest Auctionator.  Loaded V2.8.9, supports 4.0.6, Feb. 21/11. 
Logout/login.  Seems OK now (but it always is on first starting in AH).  We’ll see….

-MySales. Loaded on Day 1, showing only scrambled titles, no sales.  Ah, now I have a list, although titles are still a bit scrambled and all times are “0s ago”.  Can’t see anything to change in /ms config.


ACTIONS:
-scan
-mailbox
-record starting gold
-post vendor items, usually undercutting
-check bag prices:  embersilk 400g; frostweave 160g > buy mats and have them made
-scan neutral AH
-Later:  check mail again; HEHE broke 1000g in hand!
-evaluate current possible pipelines (everything I have in my bags!)
-check which auctions have sold and post more (LME, light leather, wool cloth)


PIPELINE EVALUATION
(prices are in g, e.g. 2.6575 = 2g65s75c; prices <1g are in silver, 10.66s)
(TB= target buy price; TS=target sell price, usually 2x purchase price for starters)
(B=buy; P=post; S=sell)
(UC by=others undercutting mine; UC all=I’m undercutting market)
(amount = total after posting, including mine)


PETS
Moth eggs: (buy 0.5; TS 8-15; current 9.95)
continue undercutting @ about 8.75
except blue, 4.75 would be undercut, so P@ 15.5152

Parrot:
bah, never had much success with these
Undercut
 

CLOTH
Linen: (TB 10s, TS 20s)
Sold 4@6s, 29@21s
B 8@ 3.65s
S 1x9@ 15.95s
It’s going to be hard to reach my TS, and this is starter pipeline, so dump stock and drop it

Wool: (TB 0.5g, TS 1g)  TB on my home server is 0.1g, but this is what this market is currently showing me might be feasible; volatile market, so really have to watch it daily (more by preference) to catch the buy/sell times
B 1x6, 2x20 @ .5g
P 4x3, 1x20 @ 0.99g
12 stacks undercutting me
total  oops, forgot to record

later S 1x3@ 0.99g
nothing @ TB
3 stacks UC mine (9 stacks sold?)
297 available (14.85 stacks)…mine are lowest priced stacks

NB. 3 wool cloth = 1 bolt of woolen cloth, 22 stacks @ 2.5g
…UC mine, so don’t get tailoring.  Keep an eye on bolts.


HERBS
Nightmare Vine: (TB 3.85; TS 7.7)
Sold 5@ 9.95
B 9@ 2.7777
P 4x5@ 7.7776
UC by 6
Total 26

Ancient Lichen: (TB 3; TS 6)
85 posted @ 3.75-4.6
check later in week

Mana Thistle: (TB 2.5; TS 5)
P 1x2@ 4.78
UC
Total 25
New TB 2; TS 4.5

Sorrowmoss: (TB 25s; TS 57s) (Tier 6)
Same tier herbs posted @ 0.53-1.12
200g to buy out icecap; 38g to buy out dreamfoil; so that whole tier is at 1g or more
I have 888g, so I think not
P 4x5@ 1.1
Total 527 (NB 312 Icecap, 492 Dreamfoil; 50 golden sansam; 371 mountain silversage)
Sorrowmoss is highest price
? should I try to bring entire market up to same level? See if this sells, then reconsider. In my home market, I’m selling glyphs instead of herbs

Khadgar’s Whisker (TB 0.5; TS 1) (Tier 4)
* this is the goldthorn tier
Fadeleaf is @ 0.85; 59g to buy this out; sometimes few of these on my home server
Khadgar’s whisker is next lowest @ 1.0289
Others in tier >1.26
Post to UC for now, see how market goes
P 4x5@ 1.0
UC
Total 431

Goldthorn (TB 2.5; TS 5) (Tier 4)
*Sold 20@ 16.05
B 1@ 2.8697
P 1@ 6.15
UC
Total 66
Would cost me about 400g to buy it out and try to get higher price, but I think that was an anomaly

Ghost mushroom (TB 2.42; TS 4.84) (Tier 5)
Sungrass (514) and firebloom (232) @0.9
Others 2-6g
UC post 2.42g
Usually not much of this on my home server; haven’t been following sales
Check later in the week


ORE & METALS
Eternium Ore: (TB 50s; TS 1g)
Sold 61@ 0.98g
S 3x5@ 1.68
UC; 43 total


GLYPHS (TB
Glyph of Heroic Throw
2 @1.5g, 6@29g, 1@118g
Haha….looks like glyph market is volatile, as on my server.
Bought this one @ 3.7026  , so can’t sell it now.  Post it anyway.
P 1@ 28.9g
Check later to see how many sold. The 1.5g ones are 12 and 48 hours.  Check in <12 hours.
Later:  both the 1.5 gold ones are gone.  I’m undercut by 1@ 12.99.98 and 3@25g.  Presumably, at least 2 sold in 6 hours in the evening. (auctioneer notes only 1 sold today).


SCROLLS
Scroll of Intellect:  (TB 1s; TS 2s)
price has risen, I hope – seems very high for this, when Spirit VI is 3.21s
B 1@ 10s
P 4x2@ 2.14g

Scroll of Spirit VI:  (TB 10s; TS 20s)
bought out low end of market (8@ 3.21s, 3.22s, 5.75s)
B 2@ 45.47s
P 4x2, 4x5 @ 2.21
UC;  amount 12

Looked at scroll market (/consumable/scroll)
most @ 1-80s, no connection to level of scroll (I-VIII)
sp, spIV, int, intIV, agIX @ 1-7g
I would be more comfortable with progressively higher prices for higher level scrolls, but I’m not going to try to change the whole scroll market.  My investment is small, so see what happens
NB. Runescroll of fortitude 5g, Runescroll of FortitudeII 30g, Scroll of recallIII 17g are all more interesting to me. Take a closer look.

*Runescroll of Fortitude II:
B 3@ 29.9
P 3@ 99.9
UC; 15 total

INSCRIPTION MATS (OTHER THAN HERBS)
Vanishing Powder (Vendor buy 2s; TS 1-2.5g)
Sold 4@ 1.1221
P 1@ 1.2122
UC by 7@ 0.7449
Total 8
Could run and get more, could P to UC; rather work in higher end markets (e.g. pets net me way more, given gross income and volume)

ENCHANT MATS
Greater Magic Essence:  (TB 1;TS 2)
B out low end, 10@1.10
P 4x5, 4x1 @ 3.9888
UC; 78 total

*Lesser Magic Essence: (TB 0.5; TS 1)
3 LME = 1 GME
GME is @4g, so LME should be >1.33g – handy to post it either a bit below or a bit above GME, to give customers a “deal”
 I have sold @1.63,1.98,3.98
P 4x3, 1x4@ 1.25
Mine are UC by 7 others; 17 total
tempting to try to shift price up, but there are 78 GME, so stick to whichever has more (GME or LME) at any given time

later: S 2x3 @1.25
P2x3, 4x6@1.25  (8x1 GME are now posted @ 3.75, same price)



Ichor of Undeath (TB 12s; TS 24s)
Sold 3@ 49s
This was a starter pipeline and my TS is not immediately achievable, so dump stock and drop it
P 2@ 15.45s


ENCHANTS
Enchant Bracer - Precision: (TB 4.5; TS 9)
did not sell @ 9.85; P 9.60
UC by 3 auctions; 20 auctions total


LEATHER
Light Leather: (TB 0.8, TS 1.6)  (3 Ruined Leather Scraps = 1 Light Leather)
I have sold @ 1.24, 1.98, 2.5
P 2x5@ 1.74
UC all except 26 with no buyout; min’m bids are 1.05, 0.95 > don’t bid
59 total

Later S 2x5@ 1.74
Only 1 stack on market, for 2g25….can I post it for 5.5g? seems unlikely
3 ruined leather scraps = 1 light leather
check ruined leather scraps: 14 stacks @ 50s, 95s…these fit my TS but are high for my TB; BUT, those are based on a single day…give it a shot
B 26 ruined leather scraps @ 0.5g
Pick up LW for 10c, made 8 Light Leather AND picked up cooking recipes while I was in Old Town
 P 5@2.24
UC
Total 6


GEMS
Azure moonstone (TB 4g, TS 8g)
Picked this up in a resale search; no other stock right now, but failed to sell @8.95
BC gem, noted as quest item in tooltip
P 8.18.81
No others on market … and there’s probably a reason
Dump and drop
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Reply #17
« on: February 25, 2011, 02:13:47 AM »
T-Rex
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24 Feb., Day 7

Total gold acquired:  2700g  (avg 450/day, WOOT!)
Start: 1107g
End: 994
(Graala, Exodar, 8g)
(Derwin, BB, 52g)
(Jollia, IF, 18g)


Scans: 6:40,  15:15, 24:00

GOALS:
1) **NEW:  choose one higher level (5-25g per item) pipeline to evaluate. Use a) list from “Justmytwocopper”, which sounds a lot like items I hear MGBers talking about.  Assess using UJ.  Post small test samples.
2) keep gold flowing with current items – check UJ to adjust target buy and target sell (modified by market conditions)

ACTIONS:
-scan neutral AH; sent Derwin 100g; bought fel armament, Recipe: Savory Deviate Delight, Schematic: Green Firework; 52g left
-mailbox (had to post stuff part way, to fit everything into bags)
-record starting gold
-post everything in my bags @ TS (or revised TS) price
*choose 1 new pipeline (5-25g buy), evaluate using UJ > actually looked at and started testing many
-make GSR5 buy list, so that I can check everything easily

MARKET:  this server becomes lively @ about 3:30 server, which is 5:30 my time.  DON’T  PANIC if nothing sells during the day!  DO post all my auctions by this time.



PIPELINES:
Maybe wool cloth, illusion dust, raw greater sagefish, large brilliant shard.  Are any of these in useful volumes @ my TB/TS prices?

PIPELINE RESEARCH
-Ancient Lichen: (TB 2; TS 4)
P 3.98

-Azure Moonstone (TB 4; TS Cool
didn’t sell @ 8.95, 8.18
P 8.18

-Copper Bar (TB 0.5g; TS 1g)
Market: 44-80s   Should I go further into this low end market?
P 1.01

-Copper Rod (B 24c; TS 18g)
P 18.8

-Darkflame Ink  (TB?)
P 4.34

-Dream Emerald (TB 7.5-11; TS 18-32) – watch for opportunities
Can only afford 2 (stack posted is 216g); may take a while to sell
B 10.84   P 24.9

-Enchanting Vellum (B 10c; TS >15s)
P 19.9s

-Eternal Shadow   B 10.65   P 34.9

-Eternium Ore: (TB 50s; TS 1g)  (2 ore = 1 bar)
No sale @ 1.68
Market: 0.99-1.7g      P 1.08 (stacks of 5)

-Fadeleaf  (TB 0.7, TS 2.Cool

-Fel armament
B 2g on NAH   P 12.3

-Frost Lotus (TB 1.6, TS 3.5)
TS not achieved very often, but saw a single opportunity today
B 3.83, 5   P 15.95

-Golden Draenite (TB 6; TS 26)
Not sure about this
B 1@ 5, 1@8      P 2x1 @ 19.25

-Goldthorn (TB 2.5; TS 5) (Tier 4)
B 9.5      P 4x5 @ 19.95

-Greater Cosmic Essence (TB12, TS 17)

-Greater Magic Essence:  (TB 1;TS 2)
Didn’t sell @ 3.98
Market 2 – 5g;   89 total (approx. same as yesterday)
B @ 0.5, 0.93   P 4x5, 1x10 @ 2.98g

-Lesser Magic Essence: (TB 0.5; TS 1)  (3 LME = 1 GME)
market 1.24 – 1.25g;  market is almost all mine > change to GME

* Illusion Dust (UJ) (TB4; TS 14)
Market 309 @ 3-9g
B @ 3g   P stacks 5 @ 7.15g
B stack @ 4.   68   P stacks 5@ 7.15

-Inferno Ink – slow pattern (weekly); not good for GSR

* Large Brilliant Shard (TB 4, TS 24)
B 12.6      P 29.9

-Light Leather (TB 50s; TS 1.5)  (3 Ruined Leather Scraps = 1 Light Leather)
B 29.25s   P 1.9g (190s)

-Linen Cloth (TB 7s;  TS 14s)
P 14.95s

-Ruined Leather Scraps (TB 20s,  TS 40s)
B 50s      P 69s

-Maelstrom crystal – too expensive for me, yet

-Mana Thistle: (TB 2; TS 4)
No price spread today
P 1x2 @ 4.42

-Mountain silversage (TB 0.9, TS 1.7)

-Nightmare Tear  watch; excellent if you’re a JC
market 260-375

-Nightmare Vine: (TB 2.8; TS 8.4)

-pyrium weapon chain (TB 15, TS 62)

* Raw Greater Sagefish (TB 0.6, TS 4) 
Hard to believe this would be popular
B 0.5      P 2.5

-Recipe: Savory Deviate Delight
B 61.74g on NAH      P 249.75

-Runescroll of Fortitude II (TB 30; TS 60)
didn’t sell @ 99.9      (market: 10@ 100)
P 2 @ 66, 1@ 99

-Small radiant Shard (TB 4.7, TS 10)

-Steady Dream Emerald (Resilience + Stam Gems - green) (TB  18; TS 54)
Slow pattern – watch to see how many sell, out of 12 posted
B 13      P 54

-Steel Bar (TB 1.4;  TS 2.Cool
Didn’t sell @5.45
Market: 98 @ 0.96-2g
P 2.8

-Truesilver Bar (TB 1, TS 2.4)
None @ TB

-Vanishing Powder (B 2s; TS on my server 1.2g; here TS 30s)
P 37s

* Wool Cloth (TB 60s, TS 1.6g)
B 10s & Buy out market <1g   P 1.68
Total 260 (245 yesterday)
----------------

SOLD
Parrot Cage (Cockatiel)
Pattern: Pink Mageweave Shirt
Greater magic essence
Pattern: bolt of soulcloth
Recipe: Curiously Tasty Omelet
Recipe: Crocolisk Gumbo
Khadgar’s whisker
Light Leather
Sorrowmoss
Recipe: Beer Basted Boar Ribs
Nightmare Vine
White Moth Egg
Wool Cloth
Recipe: Nature Protection Potion
Lesser Magic Essence
Goldthorn
(259g)

Blue Moth Egg
(7.6)

Ichor of Undeath
Formula: Enchant 2H weapon – Lesser Intellect
(12)

Enchant Bracer – Precision
(4)

* Evening Sales (15:30 – 10:00 server):
Illusion Dust (7.15 per stack of 5)
Wool Cloth (32g per stack)
Large Brilliant Shard (28g)
Raw Greater Sagefish
Recipe: Giant Clam Scorcho
Copper Bar
Ancient Lichen
Pattern: Lavender Mageweave Shirt
Schematic: Green Firework
Minor Mana Potion
Linen Cloth
Enchanting Vellum
Pattern: Tuxedo Shirt
Pattern: Tuxedo Jacket
Pattern: Tuxedo Pants
Pattern: White Wedding Dress
Wool Cloth
Blue Moth Egg
Aquadynamic Fish Attractor
Light Leather
Illusion Dust
Fel Armament
(542g)

NB. Also sold some vendor recipes that I didn’t record.
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Reply #18
« on: February 25, 2011, 12:28:57 PM »
Toltec
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awesome details, thx!
also I  just have to chuckle about VekTor and you discussing what "too much" means for a thread post.    Tongue
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Reply #19
« on: February 25, 2011, 01:04:52 PM »
wotfan2
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Awsome posts trex!..   I feel your pain on the buylists too, I updated the addons automatically one night and the next day ALL of my buylists were history, never to be seen agai. (until I recreated them again Undecided)  Keep up the good work!
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Take that you dirty Mages!
 
Reply #20
« on: February 26, 2011, 08:51:29 AM »
T-Rex
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Dear Wotfan,

OUCH!  Fortunately, mine reappeared this time.  (Logged out and back in).  A few months ago, I wasn't so lucky and I lost everything!

Many thanks for your kind comments Smiley

T-Rex
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Reply #21
« on: February 26, 2011, 08:53:39 AM »
T-Rex
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awesome details, thx!
also I  just have to chuckle about VekTor and you discussing what "too much" means for a thread post.    Tongue

Hehe!  Thanks for the chuckle, Toltec Smiley
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Reply #22
« on: February 26, 2011, 08:59:45 AM »
T-Rex
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Really and truyl, I HAVE streamlined my reporting for each potential pipeline.


25 Feb., Day 8

Total gold acquired: 3374g
Average gold per day: 422

Scans:  11:30,  23:30 (drat)

BUY netherweave bag 10g; buy mining 10c; buy LW 10c

QUESTIONS:
1)How do I use a pipeline (in 1 session a day) when I can only post 4 stacks at a time?

THOUGHTS:
1)DK could buy: engineering schematics in various places; cat carrier (siamese); Crimson Snake, red moth egg, Brown Rabbit Crate (Netherstorm)

GOALS:
1)daily routine
2)follow up on wool cloth, raw greater sagefish, illusion dust, large brilliant shard
3)Check more pipelines: Jon pipeline of the day, cata/WoLK flasks; cata gems, herbs, meat/fish, arctic fur

ACTIONS:
-scan,; mail; UC on Recipe: Roasted Moonglaze Tenderloin; UC on vendor items (except those where I refuse to drop price so low – then post @ my price, usually 8g, 15g, 25g); repost everything in my bags @ TS or revised TS price
-want to concentrate on AH, so buy only a few vendor items that usually sell for >8g (IF, BB)

-BB:  scan neutral AH; Buy from vendors:  Route --> AH, fireworks, tailor, LW, cook, pirate, check remaining gold, AH

-IF:  pick up mail (copper ore); buy from vendors:  Route --> tram vendors, inner circle via Hall of Explores, counter-clockwise (Thistlefuzz Arcanery, Bronze Kettle, Burbik’s supplies, tailor - upstairs, LW), anvil in Great Forge, Hall of Explorers to Deeprun Tram square

SW: B copper rod, Pattern (white wedding dress, blue overalls), herbs

-make GSR5 buy list, so that I can check everything easily


PIPELINES:
Wool Cloth  (TB 75s  TS 1.5g)   (3cloth = 1 bolt)
B 17 – 75s   S 1.04 - 1.98      P 1.52  (stacks 20, 3)

Illusion Dust (UJ) (TB 4; TS Cool
Market Th 309 @ 3-9g; Market Fri 43 @ 5-7.4g;  so it’s selling
B 3 – 4.68   S 7.15 – 14.95   Fri low 4.74   HOLD

? Runescroll of Fortitude II (TB 30; TS 60)
B 29.9   S 66.16   P 77.9

? Light Leather (TB 62s   TS 1.24g)
B 29s – 99.95s   S 1.24 – 2.5g      P 1.24g (stacks 5, 20)  13 UC mine
(made from ruined leather scraps B 9 – 20s, so 18 – 60s per light leather)

? Ruined Leather Scraps (TB 20s,  TS 40s) (3 Ruined Leather Scraps = 1 Light Leather)
* bought LW for 10c   wts @ 40s OR xmute to Light leather @ S 1.2g
B 50s      P 69s, no sales

? Linen Cloth (TB 7s   TS 14s)   2 linen cloth = bolt of linen cloth
B 2 – 6.86s      S 6.2 – 14.95s   P 14.1s

PIPELINE RESEARCH
-Ancient Lichen: (TB 2; TS 4)
B 0.22 – 3.04   S 3.98     P 4.01 (stacks 5, 10)    5x20 & 1x5 UC mine

-Azure Moonstone (TB 4; TS Cool
B 4   P 8.18 – 8.95      Fri low 4.00 (27 available)   HOLD

-Bronze Framework (VB 24s)
P 84s

-Bronze Tube (VB 8s     )
P 4.02      15 UC mine (3 P @ ~ 4g)

-Chilled Meat (TB 5s   TS 20s)

-Chunk O’ Mammoth (TB 1.6   TS 3.2)

-Copper Bar (TB 0.5g; TS 1g)   1 copper ore = 1 copper bar
B 39 - 50s      S 1.01g   P 0.99 (stacks 20)   

-Copper ore (TB )       1 copper ore = 1 copper bar
ore 22.99s      bar 21.47s

-Copper Rod (B 24c; TS 18g)
S 4.96 – 18.81   P 22.2120

-Greater Cosmic Essence ()   3 LCE = 1 GCE
Fri market low 10.9   ,  1169 available
B 12.05   P 16.48 no sales   wts @ 24g (18g min’m)

-Lesser Cosmic Essence     ()  1 GCE = 3 LCE
Fri market low 3.44, 33 available
xmute from GCE, so “B 4.02”   wts @ 8g (6g min’m) P 6.01 (stacks of 3)

-Darkflame Ink
B 45.7s   P 55s – 4.34g   no sales   P 2.66 (UC market)

-Dream Emerald ()
B 10.84   P 24.9      no sales   Fri market low 9.35   HOLD

-Steady Dream Emerald (Resilience + Stam Gems - green) (TB  18; TS 54)
Slow pattern – watch to see how many sell, out of 12 posted
B 13      P 54   no sales   Fri  low 12@ 12.31   HOLD / Volume?

-Dream Shard (TB 0.72  TS 2.16)   3 SDS = 1 DS
see small dream shard

-Small Dream Shard   3SDS = 1 DS
B sds 5 – 24s; xmute to DS 15 – 72s      P  2.96

-Dust of Disappearance (B 11.875g in IF)   2 Darkfallow Ink = 1
P 25.2423   this is top of market….24 UC mine

-Enchanting Vellum (B 9.5s)
S 20 – 28s   P 29s

-Eternal Shadow
B 3.17, 5.5, 10.65      P 13.9

-Eternium Bar

-Eternium Ore: (TB 40s   TS 80s)  (2 ore = 1 bar)
B  21-88s   S  49 - 98s      P 88s (stacks 5, 20)    3 stack UC mine   

-Fel armament
B 2g on NAH   S 12.3

-Flask of the Frost Wyrm
B 4.24   P 8.48      102@ 7.5 – 8.18 UC mine

-Ghost Mushroom (B 2.4)
B 2.35 – 2.42   P 1.98 - 5.16   no sales   P 4.8   (3 stacks of 20 UC mine)

-Glyph of Heroic Throw
B 3.7, 5   P 23.6

-Golden Draenite ()
B 5, 8      S 19.25     Fri big market 6.65 – 8.07g  Check on Sunday

-Goldthorn (TB 5   TS10) (Tier 4)
B 2 - 9.5      S 6.15 – 16.05   P 14.4 (stacks 5), 14.95 (stack 10)   

-Greater Magic Essence:  (TB 1.5     TS 3)   3 LME = 1 GME
wts @ 3g OR xmute to LME and wts @ 1g
B 0.72 – 1.1   S 3.98   
Market Th  89@ 2 – 5g;  Fri 87@ 0.88 - 2g  Change to LME

-Lesser Magic Essence: (B (vendor) 7.6s   TB 50s  TS 1)   1 GME = 3 LME
B 9.5 – 49.99   S 1.25 – 3.98   P 1.22 (stacks 3, 10)
Wts @ 1g OR xmute to GME and wts @ 3g
market  Th 1.24 – 1.25g
market Fri 43@ 0.5 – 1.24

-Inferno Ink – slow pattern (weekly); not good for GSR
Fri market 64.5 – 80g

-Large Brilliant Shard  (TB 14   TS 28) (cannot be made from SBS)
B 12.6      S 29.9

-Small Brilliant Shard ()
B 39 – 40s      P 99s (stacks 1, 5, 20)

-Large Radiant Shard  (B 18, TS 40)
B 18.36   P 40.4142   Fri market 15.5 – 25.78

-Small radiant Shard (TB 4.7, TS 10)
B 1.9 – 2.0   P 7.95 (stacks 2, 5)

-Large Prismatic Shard (TB 1.5   TS 3)
B 1g NAH (anomaly?)   S 3

-Lesser Invisibility Potion
B 1.8     P 3.9667 (stack of 2)

-Black Lotus
B 3   P 6.03    5 stacks UC mine

-Frost Lotus
B 3.82 – 5   P 3.52 – 15.95  no sales   
Mistake!  Fri market 115@ 3.5 – 7.4; low end  46@ <4g
Hold and hope for prices >5g, to dump stock @ some profit

-purple lotus ()
B 1.8      P 4.98

-Mana Thistle: (TB )
B 1.22, 2.5   S 4.42   P 4.64

-Mountain silversage ()
B 67, 86s   S 1.48g   

-Netherweave bag  NO
Needs 20 NW cloth ( or 4 bolts) + 1 runethread
cloth is 40s > 8g
bolt is 2.5 > 10g
bag is 10.4g

-Nightmare Vine: (TB 2.8; TS 8.4)
B 1.99 – 3.85      S 7.77 – 9.95   P 5.7

-pyrium weapon chain ()
Fri 2@ 40 on AH

* Raw Greater Sagefish (TB 1, TS 2.5) 
Hard to believe this would be popular
B 0.25 – 0.95   S 2.5      P 2.46 (stacks 5)

-Recipe: Savory Deviate Delight
B 61.74g on NAH      P 249.75 no sale   Fri market 75 – 96g HOLD

-Rhino Meat (TB 49s  TS 1g)

-Scroll of Spirit VI  (TB    TS)
B 5 – 46s   P ~ 2g, no sales    P 2.04g (stacks 1, 2, 5)

-Scroll of Spirit VII  (TB    TS)
B 3 - 8s   P 1.6g  (stacks 1, 2, 5)

-Steel Bar (TB 1.5; TS 3)
B 0.9 – 1.5 (2.5)   S 6   P 3.02  (Stack 20, 5, 1)   8 stacks UC mine

-Strange Dust (B vendor 7.6s  S 16s)
P 37s

-Truesilver Bar (TB 1, TS 2.4)
None @ TB  AH 1.08 – 2 g

-Vanishing Powder (B 38s; TS on my server 1.2g; here TS 30s)
P 37s no sales; P 1.2122

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SOLD (net prices)

Runescroll of Fortitude II (66g)

Wool cloth
Illusion dust
Golden draenite
Light leather
Linen cloth
(181)
Large Prismatic Shard (2.86g)

Copper rod (18)
Raw greater sagefish (24)

Schematic: Green Firework
Wool Cloth
Yellow Moth Egg
Cat Carrier (orange tabby)
Parrot Cage (Cockatiel)
Recipe: Crocolisk steak
Recipe: seasoned wolf kabob
Blue moth egg
Recipe: Elixir of Shadow Power
Copper Rod
(86g)  I only had vendor items posted, so that’s all that sold!

Light Leather
Mana Thistle
Wool Cloth
Copper Bar
Vanishing Powder
White Moth Egg
Cat Carrier (Silver Tabby)
Recipe: Elixir of Superior Defense
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Reply #23
« on: February 27, 2011, 02:54:31 AM »
T-Rex
Pipeliner
****
Posts: 146


Rep: 9

Sat. 26 Feb., Day 9      REPORTING DAY  New goals: make 14,500g total ; find pipeline in the 5-25g (target buy) range.

Total gold acquired: 4363g (WOW!)

Scans: 04:50, 07:10, 14:55

QUESTION:
1)How do I use pipeline (in 1 session a day) when I can only post 4 stacks at a time?  Answer: try posting different amounts; object: all but one stack sells in a day.

GOALS:
1)Daily routine
2)Check purchogram/pipeline settings (use Answer File) and how to use data
3) keep posting moths
4) POST END OF DAY/WEEK REPORT (screenshot of money stats)

Ran out of time today Sad   Enjoyed RL, instead of GSR5!

ACTIONS:
-scan
-mail
-UC on Recipe: Roasted Moonglaze Tenderloin
- look @ purchogram data for most likely pipelines – wool cloth, light leather / ruined leather scraps, linen cloth, illusion dust ...ran out of time (and out of the house!)


PIPELINES:
Wool Cloth  (TB 75s  TS 1.5g)   (3cloth = 1 bolt)  try for S 3.4
S stacks 20      P 6

? Light Leather (TB 88s   TS 1.76g)
S stacks 5, 20
There’s an anomaly in S 20’s (65g)

? Ruined Leather Scraps (TB 29s,  TS 59s) (3 Ruined Leather Scraps = 1 Light Leather)
S in 1, 18     OR xmute to Light leather

? Linen Cloth (TB 11s   TS 23s)   2 linen cloth = bolt of linen cloth
S in 10

? Illusion Dust (UJ) (TB 4; TS 12)
B in 4, 20      S in 5’s


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SOLD (net prices)

Vanishing Powder 2g

Wool cloth
Light leather
Yellow moth egg
Linen cloth
Copper bar
Eternal shadow
Enchanting vellum
Strange dust
Dream shard
(233)

eternium ore (17)
white moth egg (14)

Illusion Dust
Pattern: Tuxedo Pants
Pattern: Tuxedo Jacket
Pattern: Heavy Leather Ball
Small Brilliant Shard
Goldthorn
Parrot Cage (Senegal)
White Moth Egg
Yellow Moth Egg
Blue Moth Egg
Light Leather
Ancient Lichen
Recipe: Mightfish Steak
Linen Cloth
(731)
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Reply #24
« on: February 28, 2011, 03:35:07 AM »
T-Rex
Pipeliner
****
Posts: 146


Rep: 9

Sun. 27 Feb., Day 10      

Total gold acquired: 6673g

Scans: 01:10, 10:50, 12:55, 19:30, 01:15

WOW
-Purchogram / Pipeline is FANTASTIC!  I wish I’d been using it from the start!
-I made over 1000g today, with low cost pipelines – think what I can do with higher level ones, AND on my home server!
-THIS IS FUN!!!!!

QUESTION:
1)If the low end of the market is higher than my TS, I am undercutting the market (i.e., I am ignoring my TS).  Is this a good idea?  I guess I’ll find out if my items sell?  Perhaps it’s a good idea with high volume items, not so good with low volume items?

AHA!
Beancounter doesn’t always list items by date! I thought it wasn’t recording everything, then I clicked on date title to order it. Hey Presto, everything is there now! Strange.

GOALS:
1)set up Auctioneer Converter Search
2)Apply purchogram/pipeline to current pipelines and to others I’ve been researching
3) VOTE (best reporting)


AUCTIONEER SEARCH: CONVERTER
-YAY Teamspeak! > use Auctioneer Search to stock up on best buys
-I was spending way too much time figuring out if I should buy/sell Greater/Lesser, Mote/Primal, Crystallized/Eternal
-THESE USE PURCHOGRAM HI PRICE (Price Valuation Method set to Purchogram)
-set to 5g minimum profit and 50% minimum disount
-use to restock, for later resale
*use Purchogram to confirm REALISTIC TB and TS price BEFORE buying
-(NB when buying, wait for rescan before buying next; and be very careful to buy at the lowest price per!)
-post later in week, at price determined from Purchogram


PIPELINES:
* Wool Cloth  (TB 75s  TS 1.5g)   (3cloth = 1 bolt)  try for S 3.4
Sell in stacks 20      P @ 1.8884

* Light Leather (TB 88s   TS 1.76g)
S in stacks of 5      P 8 stacks (and 4x20)     S 2.48g
NB. Also buy Ruined Leather Scraps @ TB 29s, 3 > 1 Light Leather

* Illusion Dust (UJ) (TB 4; TS 12)
B in stacks of 4, 20      S in stacks of 5

* Lotus (purple, black)
Buy and immediately repost when spread is >100%

* Runescroll of Fortitude II (B 14-29.9   S 66)
small market, but lucrative

* check Herbs Tier 3 (lion’s ink), Herbs Outland (ethereal ink), and Herbs Tier 2 (midnight ink) for immediate turn-around (re-post @ twice the price)


PIPELINE RESEARCH
? Dream Shard (B 0.25      S 2.96)
(mine all sold, market low is 3.98)

? Eternal Shadow (B 3-5.5   S 13.9      P 11.55)
Stack size 1…this is tedious, try 2’s

? Eternal Water (TB 0.7      TS 1.5)
S in stacks of 1, 2
S during week?

? Goldthorn (B 2-9.5   S 6-16) (Tier 4)
S in stacks of 1, 5, 10   

? Large Brilliant Shard (TB 8.5   TS 35)
Sell in stacks of 1

? Large Prismatic Shard (TB 1   TS 2.5)
Sell in stacks of 1

? Lesser Planar Essence (TB 2.7      TS 5.4)
S in stacks of 10, 1

? Nightmare Tear  watch market (260-450)

? Pyrium Weapon Chain  Small market, watch (P 47 – 99)

? Raw Greater Sagefish (TB 1, TS 2.5) 
S in stacks of 5
S during the week?

? Small Dream Shard (TB 0.49   xmute to DS )  3 SDS = 1DS

? Steel Bar (TB 1.2; TS 2.2)
S in stacks of 5, 20

? Strange Dust (B 0.9   P 3.48)
P in stacks of 5, 20

DO NOT BUY
Linen cloth (low price), Silk cloth
Eternium ore (low price and volatility), Iron ore, Elementium Ore
Scrolls (low price)
Thick leather, heavy leather
Lesser Moonstone, Dream Emerald, Steady Dream Emerald
Mote of Shadow
Greater Magic Essence
Cosmic Essence (Greater, Lesser) (<100% spread)
Radiant Shard (large, small), Small Brilliant Shard
Lesser Invisibility Potion
Flask of the Frost Wyrm (<100% spread)
Fel Armament (few available)
Mountain Silversage (<100% spread)
Frost Lotus (low volatility)
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VENDOR ITEMS
*Moth Eggs > I have pushed price to 22.21.22.  I may have saturated the market, although there is now no competition at all.   Later Sunday, ooh lots of competition (6, 7, 13) undercutting me!
*Copper Rod
*Pattern: Tuxedo Jacket 47.5s; Tuxedo Shirt 42.75s, Tuxedo Pants 42.75s; keep moving price up

VENDOR ITEMS, IF I’M RUNNING AROUND ANYWAY
-Pattern: Pink/ Lavender Mageweave Shirt 38s; Blue Overalls; Crimson Silk Cloak 12s
-Schematic: Green Firework 18s, Accurate Scope 20s
-Recipe: GIANT CLAM SCORCHO 50s, Mithril Head Trout 22s, Hot Smoked Bass 1.6g, Cooked Glossy Mightfish 1.6g, Filet of Redgill 1.6g; Elixir of Superior Defense, Crocolisk Steak, Seasoned Wolf Kabob, Curiously Tasty Omelet, Crocolisk Gumbo, Bristle Whisker Catfish, Murloc Fin Soup,
-RABBIT, Cat Carrier (no competition); Cockatiel 40s; Snake; Owl
-bronze framework, bronze tube, strange dust, lesser magic essence 7.6s, copper tube 4.8s
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SOLD (net prices)
Refreshing spring water (finally!)
Pattern: Heavy Leather Ball
Wool Cloth
Steel Bar
Dust of Disappearance
Copper Rod
Light Leather
Design: The Jade Eye
Design: Opal Necklace of Impact
Steady Dream Emerald
Blue Moth Egg
Illusion Dust
Bronze Framework
Ghost Mushroom
(810)

Goldthorn
Glyph of Heroic Throw
(161)

Light Leather
Wool Cloth
Pattern: Lavender Mageweave Shirt
Pattern: Tuxedo Shirt, Pants, Jacket
Schematic: Green Firework
Schematic: Blue Firework
Mote of Shadow
Dense Stone
Lesser Magic Essence
(535)

Lesser Magic Essence
Recipe: Sagefish Delight
(20)

Wool Cloth (84)

Eternium Ore
Wool Cloth
(34)

Wool Cloth (1599 ?  is this a typo?)

Keen Throwing Knife
Ancient Lichen
(81)

Pattern: Crimson Silk Cloak
Lesser Invisibility Potion
(45)

Formula: Enchant 2H weapon – Lesser Intellect
Pattern: Lavender Mageweave Shirt
Pattern: Pink Mageweave Shirt
Pattern: Tuxedo Jacket, Shirt, Pants
(116)

Nightmare Vine
Greater Magic Essence
Pattern: Enchanter’s Cowl
Recipe: Hot Smoked Bass
Small Radiant Shard
Recipe: Mithril Head Trout
Recipe: Filet of Redgill
Recipe: Clam Chowder
Copper Tube
Bronze Tube
Schematic: Accurate Scope
(172)

Ancient Lichen
Steel Bar
Design: Amulet of the Moon
(32)

Purple Lotus
Wool Cloth
Steel Bar
Lesser Magic Essence
(38)

Lesser Magic Essence (24)
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Reply #25
« on: February 28, 2011, 11:40:14 AM »
BusyKiller
Goldfarmer
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Posts: 22


Rep: 0

I feel like an idiot but what's this purchogram and where do I get it?
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Reply #26
« on: February 28, 2011, 11:45:09 AM »
venom
Auctioneer
*****
Posts: 426


Rep: 23

I feel like an idiot but what's this purchogram and where do I get it?

No need to feel like an idiot, just wet behind the ears Tongue
follow this line BusyKiller http://massivewowgold.com/memberforum/index.php/topic,1795.0.html there is also a help file here http://massivewowgold.com/memberforum/index.php/topic,1830.0.html
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Reply #27
« on: March 01, 2011, 02:36:55 AM »
T-Rex
Pipeliner
****
Posts: 146


Rep: 9

Mon. 28 Feb., Day 11      

Total gold acquired: 7680g  (769g per day)

Scans: 01:15, 11:40, 19:28, 12:27 (next scan before 11:27)

PROBLEM:
Despite all the fine words below, I feel like I haven’t the foggiest notion what I’m doing.  Prices change so radically between weekend and weekdays.  I don’t think I’m very good at setting TB and TS.  And I bought too much of my “test” items.  I know to hold onto wool, leather until I meet my TS (probably next weekend).  But that leaves me with limited confirmed pipelines.  And what’s the point of figuring out sell volume, when it changes so much? I really feel lost.

GOALS:
-I had limited time today, so I accomplished none of today’s original goals.
-I did figure out what to do next with confirmed pipelines, and how to figure out if an item might be a good pipeline.  I applied these processes to confirmed / potential pipelines that I have on the go.
-I could make a fair chunk of gold by selling vendor items every day, but it takes a lot of time to run around and buy everything, so I am determined to concentrate on pipelines.

CONFIRMED PIPELINES
Time to figure out volume to sell.
1)Use Beancounter to record # & size of stacks that sold yesterday.
2)If I have some left, post that many + 1 more today.
3)If I have none left posted, post more today.
4)modify TB, TS if it seems warranted

POTENTIAL PIPELINES:
How do I figure out if a potential is a good pipeline?
1)Determine TB, TS prices from Pipeline/Purchogram
2)B @ this B price; P @ this sell price, or UC market if that is higher
3)record the S price for each item that sold (Beancounter)
4)I should be recording amounts too, but that takes me too long to figure out (and too much data, too much figuring confuses me).  If there are 5 or more sales, it looks good.  If there are 1-4 sales, I’ll record “low volume”
5)Hmmmm……maybe I should record net sales per item in my record of sales, to see how much gold each item brings in.  Don’t want to spend my time on things that net me 5g a day.  Nope, too much to record.
 
BIG SELLERS (Monday)
-Nightmare Vine 6x5 = 30 (one buyer)
-Small  Brilliant Shard 8x5 = 40 (one buyer)
-Greater Cosmic Essence 2x5 + 1 = 11 (one buyer)
-Large Radiant Shard 3x1 = 3 (one buyer)
-Raw Greater Sagefish 13x5 + 20 = 85 (one buyer)

CONCLUSIONS
-wool cloth, light leather and illusion dust trade actively on the weekend
-raw greater sagefish sells on weekdays
-the items that sold today might be pipelines, but I’m not sure yet.  With one buyer each, they could be flukes.
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Reply #28
« on: March 02, 2011, 05:32:08 AM »
T-Rex
Pipeliner
****
Posts: 146


Rep: 9

Tues. 1 Mar., Day 12      

Total gold acquired: 8493g  (773g per day)

Scans: 13:21 (late), 19:40, (next scan before 06:40)

WOW
This IS easy, when I stick to my Buy and Target Sell prices!!

YESTERDAY’S PROBLEM:
Yesterday I felt thoroughly lost. I think that:
a)I made it too complex
b)I was worried about how to figure out what items are pipelines, when price and volume keep changing, with day of week, school year, holidays (phases of the moon, sunspots,…..)

NEW APPROACH:  KEEP IT SIMPLE, POTENTIAL PIPELINES:
I know:  I can’t set a realistic target buy price from purchogram/pipeline, Undermine Journal and looking at my market.
Mistake:  I bought some items for way too much, or bought too many
So, let’s work with what I have done!

How to start pipeline testing:
1)figure out a rough TB price
2)buy a few at that price…record as B (not TB, since that’s not confirmed)
3)set Target Sell price = 2 x B
4)stick to the B and TS price!
5)keep posting until it sells
6)all I have to record is B and TS.  Don’t change them (yet)!
NB> If I’ve already bought the item, set B price as what I bought it for (even if it now appears unrealistic) and set TS at 2x that.  Keep posting until it sells.  If I still have it in a week, get the best price I can and forget about it!

Identifying a pipeline that I want to use:
1)can I buy at Buy price or lower?
2)can I sell at TS or higher?
3)Can I sell either a lot of the item, or a few for a large profit (say 25-50g each, for now)?

Questions:
1)Should I buy more if it becomes available at much less than I originally bought at?....yes, a bit more (5 stacks or so?)
2)Should I post at more than the TS price, if the market is moving up?...Yes, follow market if it has high volume.

You know, this is basically what I wrote out yesterday.  I wonder why it seemed impossible last night, and easy today?


GOALS:
-recover my confidence re: pipelines.  Post some of each item (buy some if it’s a big mover and I have little) …. STICK to my B and TS prices!

ACTIONS
-continued active trading
-bought some vendor items, to keep gold flowing while I re-establish pipelines and testing

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BIG SELLERS (Tuesday)

Mageroyal
Briarthorn
Liferoot
Light Leather
Runescroll of Fortitude II (single sale, 46g)
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SOLD (net prices)
Wild Steelbloom
Dream Emerald
Briarthorn
Wool Cloth
Liferoot
Light Leather
Frost Lotus
Greater Magic Essence
Swiftthistle
Recipe: Spiced Chile Crab
(440)

Blue moth egg
Recipe: Free Action Potion
Wool Cloth
(28)

Mageroyal
Recipe: Giant Clam Scorcho
Lesser Planar Essence
Runescroll of Fortitude II
Briarthorn
Eternal Water
(345)
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Reply #29
« on: March 03, 2011, 03:22:38 AM »
T-Rex
Pipeliner
****
Posts: 146


Rep: 9

Wed. 2 Mar., Day 13   

Total gold acquired:  9750
Average gold per day:  813 (high: 813)

Scans: 03:43, 11:20, 20:12, 01:10


GOALS:
-recovered my confidence re: pipelines.  STICK to my B and TS prices!
-got my toon to Dal for 10g, buying cats on the way.  There may be no point, since the frozen orb conversion market has disappeared for the moment. Pets are too expensive for me to want to take the risk.

WHAT’S NEXT?
Well, I’m still looking for higher level pipelines (Buy items @ 5-25g each).  I’ve looked at darkmoon cards, shards, dusts, cloths.  Maybe leathers?

FUN!!
I had a great time buying…and selling!  Darkmoon Faire Cards.  Yay!

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SOLD (net prices)
Wool cloth
Recipe: Savory Deviate Delight (finally! Buy another)
(83)

Recipe: Rockscale Cod
Recipe: Mithril Head Trout
Recipe: Filet of Redgill
Recipe: Cooked Glossy Mightfish
White Moth Egg
(62)

Purple Lotus (9)

Nightmare Vine
Stranglekelp
Recipe: Spiced Chile Crab
Wool Cloth
* Large Brilliant Shard net profit    ? medium price pipeline
(170)

Nightmare Vine
Mana Thistle
Steel Bar
Scroll of Intellect (finally!)
(381)

Vanishing Powder
Schematic: Accurate Scope
Pattern: Gem-studded Leather Belt
Dream Shard
Lesser Cosmic Essence
Light Leather
Large Prismatic Shard
Ashen Pigment
(241)

Greater Magic Essence
2x Eight of Storms
Mageroyal
Cat Carrier (Silver Tabby)
Cat Carrier (Orange Tabby)
Cat Carrier (Cornish Rex)
Cat Carrier (Bombay)
Blue Moth Egg
Dream Shard
Frost Lotus
Two of Demons
(313)
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